Making a Verein/Association - Knowledge Thread

Hey all I guess I will throw my hat in the mix because I have been pinged twice in here now…I also tried some formatting to make it easier to find what you’re looking for

Wow Keepers Questions

  • @Jackfruitchilli WoWKeepers asks 60 bucks for a yearly membership and then you pay the reduced cost of 3 Euros per week. I paid for that membership and was allowed to include regular members which to me are Dungeon Masters so they also pay the reduced rate. Everyone else is 6 Euros but can individually get in touch with WoWKeepers. There is also a once a year 180 bucks option.

    • This is a very reasonable rate compared to playing at a Cafe and compared to renting out your own space. This is because WoW has the numbers we do NOT have. At our height we had 60 players. And even considering that number it would still be more expensive to rent our own place.
  • As mentioned by @Darthbinks the first three times at WoWkeepers are free so the paywall is no problem. I think the biggest turnoff for most is that it is an old cellar with a really small entrance but it hasn’t stopped from a lot of cool new people joining us.

  • @Rayce_Kaiser we are paying dues to a Verein that is giving a space to Table top Gaming. There is warhammer, numenerra and other dnd groups. You are making it sound like competition.

  • They were also really chill when I made a handful of mistakes in the beginning
    

How would we conduct a survey on… anything?

That is easy enough in my Opinion… us admins can just cross reference users by their Account age, then we check which of these accounts had recent activity and those are the people we want to include in such things. One would have to define a cut off point kinda like we did with our DM rules for V.A.L.U.E games March last year. Or we just throw a google forms in the discord say only allowed with google account registration and call it a day though that would be pretty low effort..

A loveletter to @Rayce_Kaiser

Hey Kaiser I have been reading your posts and it is very clear to me that you are as passionate if not even more passionate about this community than me. I also want to do more and cooler things, mostly spread the good word of TTRPGs to more people.

However

The idea that a Verein would make us more robust does not hold any water for me. I have successfully revived the Friday games twice now without any backing simply by organizing at 1070 by organizing WoWKeepers with the help of @Stracci and I am certain we will do it again should something happen.

The real reason for a verein is to get funding to do cool stuff

but space in Vienna is expensive, events we can still attend by just acting like one and everything else like merch and stuff is cute but at the end of the day feels very capitalist to some extent.

The fact is that we cannot go under, unless The Forum and Discord die at the same time. We will always have at least some people that are going to want to play at some point that is the beauty of it.

Hot takes from a guy that is too young

  • @H I wouldn’t call us perfectly egalitarian. Definitely a lot flatter than other places and that is beautiful, however we have admins and mods and just a lot of people that have naturally taken to leadership positions. I don’t think it could hurt to carry that outwards more. Especially new people want to gravitate towards someone that looks like they are responsible.
  • I don’t want to get too much into the nitty gritty of Vereinsgründung. I feel like that is what the actual date is for. However it would feel very much wrong to use the RPGVienna label for something that is not approved by the founders per se.
  • I am also not sure how it would work but @Mexikorn 's idea seems reasonable. Keep the legal stuff to a part of our efforts not the entire RPGVienna brand.
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