I tend to ramble so I apologize that (imo) my points for why a Verein is a good idea got lost.
- Renting a space/having an agreement with a bar This is was my initial point when we got the first warning from 1070 regarding drink consumption, lack of free tables and when the bar was booked for another event and we got a couple days notice regarding that. Our numbers tend to swell heavily during Spring and Fall (at least that’s what I saw post Corona). I would like to avoid the unpleasentness we have experienced and have a formal arrangement with the location(s) we play at.
- Stuff left at location After leaving 1070, did anyone get the stuff we stored there? I also know the Chessex Map I donated disappeared at some point. I would be happy to store my books and extra dice and stuff if I felt secure in the knowledge that they wont disappear. This requires some entity to be responsible for things and I dont wish to put this on any individual. Honestly, I am unsure how to solve this with a Verein, but my gut instinct is that SOMEHOW a Verein would have better odds at success then an egalitarian community (Quoting H, because I thought this was a very pleasent way to describe us xD)
- Funds, Donations, Money I personally dont feel comfortable having money involved without some written agreement and responsible parties (not necessarily Verein). @Darthbinks brought up costs and required Anno Membership, I would really like to poll and find out how many people would be willing to pay for the Verein. We were getting 60+ during our peak and that was not all the same people. Very crude estimate would be closer to 100 people who attend often enough who would pay reasonable dues. I’m not saying we found the Verein with the intent of getting people to pay dues, but with the intent of gauging actual interest and having a plan to execute before we even consider asking for money. Even if all we do is have a Verein that then plays at WOW Keepers, I think that would be a step in a direction of opportunities. I think it is not unreasonable to gauge what kind of financial possibilities exist, but that is not a discussion I feel comfortable having without having a structure in place to hold people resonsible.
Regarding a “Night of the Rolling Dice” Verein, I dont want to split the community and I am fearful of doing anything NotRD without RPG Vienna, having already used RPG Vienna logo and name for the first event. The community of RPG Vienna is important to me and I would like to do something for the community, not start my own thing.
Regarding running a Verein and the administrave work, some background on me: I’ve been Project Manager on 2 Concept to Turn-Key 9-digit projects, coordinating over 5 countries/legal jurisdictions and 3 languages. I also run a small, financially involved gaming community since 2011. I work slow, but precisely and do not promise something I cannot deliver. Ethical work is more important to me than getting work done cheap or quick.
My initial proposal is a pro forma Verein (again quoting H, because why invent, if something else works), with the intent of having a skeleton structure to build upon and gather statistics with which then actual proposals can be processed, voted upon and such. Part of the reason why a legal entity is (IMO) necessary, is that I would like to collect membership data (Screen Name and an email is enough, IMO) to have a bit more oversight. This kind of data SHOULD NEVER be processed by an individual who has no legal liabilty!
Right now, we are hearing (including myself in this) from a vocal minority.